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SAYLOR DNA PROJECT
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GROUP #1
SL+ Seiler/Saylor
Lineage (<<-- Click to view a pdf file)
DNA
testing places Group 1 members in the relatively rare I2b2-14 (L38-14)
Haplogroup that shares a common ancestor with the 3000 year old skeletons found in central Germany.
See additional information below.
Research of the I2b2 clade is supported by the
FamilyTreeDNA L38 Project
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DYS# (DNA Y
chromosome Segment Number) |
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Marker |
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4 |
5 |
6 |
7 |
8 |
9 |
10 |
11 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
18 |
19 |
20 |
21 |
22 |
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25 |
26 |
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28 |
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30 |
31 |
32 |
33 |
34 |
35 |
36 |
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Name
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H
a
p
l
o |
3
9
3 |
3
9
0 |
1
9 |
3
9
1 |
3
8
5
a |
3
8
5
b |
4
2
6 |
3
8
8 |
4
3
9 |
3
8
9
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1 |
3
9
2 |
3
8
9
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2 |
4
5
8 |
4
5
9
a |
4
5
9
b |
4
5
5 |
4
5
4 |
4
4
7 |
4
3
7 |
4
4
8 |
4
4
9 |
4
6
4
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4
6
4
b |
4
6
4
c |
4
6
4
d |
4
6
0 |
G
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T
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4 |
Y
C
A
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Y
C
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4
5
6 |
6
0
7 |
5
7
6 |
5
7
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C
D
Y
a |
C
D
Y
b |
4
4
2 |
4
3
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Test #
51788 |
ADMIN
Seiler
Saylor |
I |
13 |
25 |
16 |
11 |
15 |
16 |
11 |
14 |
13 |
12 |
11 |
28 |
17 |
8 |
10 |
10 |
12 |
25 |
15 |
21 |
28 |
14 |
14 |
15 |
15 |
10 |
9 |
19 |
19 |
14 |
14 |
16 |
17 |
33 |
35 |
12 |
10 |
Test #
84609 |
SL413+
Seiler
Saylor |
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13 |
25 |
16 |
11 |
15 |
16 |
11 |
14 |
13 |
12 |
11 |
28 |
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Test #
156871 |
SILER |
I |
13 |
25 |
16 |
11 |
15 |
16 |
11 |
14 |
13 |
12 |
11 |
28 |
17 |
8 |
10 |
10 |
12 |
25 |
15 |
21 |
29 |
14 |
14 |
15 |
15 |
10 |
9 |
19 |
19 |
14 |
14 |
16 |
17 |
33 |
36 |
12 |
10 |
Test #
127352 |
Saylor |
I |
13 |
26 |
16 |
11 |
15 |
16 |
11 |
14 |
13 |
12 |
11 |
28 |
17 |
8 |
10 |
10 |
12 |
25 |
15 |
21 |
29 |
14 |
14 |
15 |
15 |
10 |
9 |
19 |
19 |
14 |
14 |
16 |
17 |
33 |
35 |
12 |
10 |
Test #
154713 |
SL2
Seiler
Saylor |
I |
13 |
26 |
16 |
11 |
15 |
16 |
11 |
14 |
13 |
12 |
11 |
28 |
17 |
8 |
10 |
10 |
12 |
24 |
15 |
21 |
29 |
14 |
14 |
15 |
15 |
10 |
9 |
19 |
19 |
14 |
14 |
16 |
17 |
33 |
35 |
12 |
10 |
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Marker |
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9 |
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11 |
12 |
13 |
14 |
15 |
16 |
17 |
18 |
19 |
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21 |
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For Group 1 members, a Y-DNA
connection exists with another FamilyTreeDNA Project researching the rare
I2b2 haplotype.
Our Group 1 Y-DNA results match that of 6
males uncovered at the Lichtenstein Cave archaeological site discovered in
1972. The Lichtenstein Cave is located in the foothills of the Harz
Mountains near Dorste, Lower Saxony, (central) Germany.
DNA was
recovered from the skeletal remains of 21 females and 19 males dating
from the Bronze Age, or about 3000 years old. We can now claim ancestors
with one of the world's longest family trees and safely say we have proven
German ancestry.
The Lichtenstein Cave test results fall into the
I2b2-B clade. So we do not descend from males found in the cave. However, we
share a common ancestor. The I2b2-14 clade is estimated to have split from
the I2b2 clade about 4000 years ago. The I2b2-14 clade is identified by a
DYS388 count of 14. DYS388 was not tested by the Lichtenstein Cave research.
You can view a chart in pdf format that compares Group
1 results with other I2b2-14 results by clicking this LINK ------>>>>>
SAYLOR-I38.pdf.
The PAPER trail for this Group goes back to Joseph Seiler, SL.
Joseph's second child was Daniel Seiler, SL2.
Daniel's family is documented
in A History of the Sayler Family by James Lanning Sayler
published in 1898. A copy can be purchased from
Higginson Book Store - search for
rs00141 or SAYLER.
Test #154713 is from a
descendant of Daniel Seiler, SL2, and is a 36 of 37 match with test #127352.
The descendant submitting test #154713 has a very strong paper trail now
supported by DNA. The paper trail of test # 127352 is not complete: but, can
now focus on the descendants of Daniel Seiler, SL2.
Joseph's fourth child Jacob is identified as SL4.
The most detailed documentation is contained in A Saylor Lineage
by John Galen Saylor published in 1983. Copies are rare; but, an electronic
version can be downloaded from the
SaylorHomestead web-site, under Genealogy - Saylor Family - Saylor
Lineage 1983. This is the marker sequence for the western Pennsylvania
families documented by Dr. E.C. Saylor
For the tests #51788 and #84609 the documented Most Recent
Common Ancestor is Jacob Seiler, SL413:
Test #51788 is from a descendant of
his fifth child, Peter Saylor, SL4135.
Test #84609 is from a descendant of
his fourth child, John L. Saylor, SL4134.
#51788 and #84609 are fifth cousins.
The DNA trail for this Group may go back further!
New testing submitted by
Test # 156871 is VERY interesting.
Test # 156871 is a 35 of 37
match with test # 51788 and
also a 35 of 37 match with test # 127352;
BUT,
at different marker locations.
Test # 156871 is a 34 of 37 match with test #
154713;
BUT,
test # 154713 is a closer 36 of 37 match with test # 127352.
This could indicate mutations within the Joseph Seiler, SL, lines
OR Test #
156871 could be the marker sequence indicating an EARLIER common ancestor.
Very interesting!
At this time the paper trail for test # 156871 only
goes back to a William H. SILER, born 30 MAY 1803 in Kentucky.
Also
as of this time the paper trail for test # 127352 goes back to the 1850
census in Ohio indicating a parent born in Pennsylvania.
The
SL
identifier is from the Amish and
Amish Mennonite Genealogies by
Gingerich and Kreider.
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